November 20, 2025: Debbie Lesko Presentation

November 20, 2025: Debbie Lesko Presentation

On November 20, 2025, Debbie Lesko, Maricopa County Board of Supervisors (MCBOS), Representative for District 4, was a guest speaker at the Arizona Legislative District (LD) 25 Republican Committee, which is comprised of Republican Precinct Committeemen/women from the northern portion of LD25.

Missing ballots from the November 4, 2025 meeting was one of the topics Debbie Lesko addressed in her presentation to the Arizona LD25 Republican Committee. These ballots were discovered three days after the election, on November 7, 2025. Debbie's account was similar to a Statement from Maricopa County Elections Department.

Neil Thibodaux was in the audience during the November 20, 2025, Arizona LD25 Republican meeting. Without us ever meeting, he presented a resolution that I had drafted, which was titled "Public-Private Partnership (PPP) Contracts Must Be Open and as Transparent, Subject to Public Oversight, Audits, and Corrective Action Plans (CAP)," As he explains, he was a retired Senior Consulting Engineer for Arizona Public Service and had spent most of his career investigation problems and implementing solutions at Palo Verde Generating Station in accordance with 10 CFR 50, Appendix B, Criterion XVI, Corrective Actions. He understood the value of Corrective Actions. Neil presented my resolution, which was unanimously approved by the attendees. He explained to the attendees that he would follow-up with me so he could learn more about my efforts. We met the following week and have been teammates ever since.

Meanwhile, Neil listened to Debbie Lesko tell her story of the missing ballots, which was presented in a manner to calm the audience. The Arizona LD25 Republican Committees needed to be calmed; they had observed election-related anomalies with suspicion during the 2020, 2022, 2024 and now the 2025 elections. With Neil's CAP experience, he simply wanted to know what the MCBOS was going to do to prevent another incident of missing ballots, so he asked.

Debbie explained that no action was necessary because the two transport boxes were found inside of a drop box, which fortunately had been stored in a room with 24 video surveillance and the security seals were still intact.

For most of the audience, the response seemed reasonable. Neil had to turnover the microphone to prevent himself from saying something inappropriate. In his mind, Debbie was using the "no harm, no foul" excuse. Worse yet, they were lucky that the drop box had been under constant surveillance. Anytime an organization relies on luck as a barrier to failure, the organization is dysfunctional. a

In this meeting, Neil observed the MCBOS deny an opportunity to improve the organization through the use of CAP and he also obtained unanimous support for my CAP resolution.

Jamie's Timeline

1. 2020: General Election Anomalies — Maricopa County has numerous election anaomalies
2. 2021: My Journey Begins — Starting to ask questions about lessons learned
3. November 2022: Mid-term Election — The Katie Hobbs oversaw her own election
4. December 2024: Gaining Support — [My action; no governance gaps]
5. April 15, 2025: Public Records Request — Public Records Request process
6. May 15, 2025: Let’s Play Hot Potato — Public Records Request runaround
7. November 20, 2025: Debbie Lesko Presentation - Explains Recent Lost Ballots
8. December 1, 2025: Special Complaint File with Court - [My action; no governance gaps]
9. February ???: Plaintiff's Briefing - [My action; no governance gaps]
10. March 12, 2026: Maricopa County Defense Briefing - Maricopa County Legal Team's Defense Brief
11. April 3,, 2026, Plaintiff's Response to the Defense Briefing - [My action; no governance gaps]
12. June 1, 2026: Judge's Decision - Judge Rules in Favor of the County [Judge's action; no governance gaps]
13. June 8, 2026: Maricopa County's Ombudsman - Ombudsman by Title without Ombudsman Independence
14. August 3, 2026: Submitted Complaint — Formal complaint submitted
15. August ??, 2026: Maricopa County Responds to My Complaint - ???

Notable Governance Observations

• As a member of the MCBOS, Ms. Lesko did not appear to be applying Principle 2 - Exercise Oversight Responsibility.
• The errors committed by the Elections staff suggest governance gaps may be found within Principle 4 - Demonstrate Commitment to Competence and Principle 5 - Enforce Accountability.
• There was an obvious gap with internal controls established for handling cast ballots, which suggests potential issues with Principle 12 - Implement Control Activities.
• The lack of any investigation and corrective actions to prevent recurrence suggest potential governance gaps with Principle 17 - Evaluate Issues and Remediate Deficiencies.

Potential Governance Gaps

• Principle 1 - Demonstrate Commitment to Integrity and Ethical Values
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• Principle 3 - Establish Structure, Responsibility, and Authority
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• Principle 4 - Demonstrate Commitment to Competence
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• Principle 5 - Enforce Accountability
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• Principle 6 - Define Objectives and Risk Tolerances
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• Principle 7 - Identify, Analyze, and Respond to Risks
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• Principle 8 - Assess Fraud, Improper Payment, and Information
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• Principle 9 - Identify, Analyze, and Respond to Change
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• Principle 10 - Design Control Activities
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• Principle 11 - Design General Control Activities over Information
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• Principle 12 - Implement Control Activities
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• Principle 13 - Use Quality Information
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• Principle 14 - Communicate Internally
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• Principle 15 - Communicate Externally
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• Principle 16 - Perform Monitoring Activities
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• Principle 17 - Evaluate Issues and Remediate Deficiencies
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